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Post by Nancy Park on Mar 9, 2013 18:18:34 GMT -8
**A bit off topic as it is regarding using the implant for a ferret with Adrenal disease. I've been meaning to write this post about a few things I've seen with the Des implant. A few weeks ago I had to help my little guy Sinbad over the bridge, he was a special needs guy with multiple health issues. A year ago he went into exploratory surgery as a last resort for some weird symptoms and was found to have adrenal disease and Insulinoma. We took care of some of it but the adrenal was on the right and we left it alone and implanted him with the Des. Mind you this was a shock as he was a whole ferret. We won't get into the bloodlines, not mine. Anyways, a necropsy was done as I wanted to know the full disease info, he has had cardiomyopathy since 3 yrs of age, and lymphoma finally got him. But!! There was no adrenal!! Zip, Zero!! If I hadn't seen him on the operating table both times I would not have believed it. This is the second ferret I've implanted for adrenal that had no signs of it a year or two later validated surgically. I'm not saying it will happen for every ferret but am I impressed, you bet. Just thought I'd share.
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Post by darlene on Mar 15, 2013 20:28:11 GMT -8
That's very interesting
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Post by unclejoe on Mar 26, 2013 18:25:38 GMT -8
We have Kahlua, who was diagnosed with adrenal in Dec 2007. She has had 2 implants, in June 2010 and a year later. She has done amazing with it. She is now 8, and shows no fur loss. I did a research paper on it for a college chemistry class, and what we've seen supports Dr. Wagner's findings. She has shown no symptoms since a month after her first implant.
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Post by miamiferret2 on Apr 9, 2013 20:33:49 GMT -8
i saw you post about this on facebook but that is truly amazing Nancy! I have heard of it actually reducing adrenal tumor size but not eliminating it altogether!
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Post by unclejoe on Apr 17, 2013 17:53:42 GMT -8
According to Wagner, et. al, and my other research, it is the only treatment available that slows or stops the growth of tumors, in about 80% of cases, and shrinks tumors in some.
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Post by Nancy Park on Apr 22, 2013 12:36:21 GMT -8
It definitely is a good thing for the Adrenal issues with some needed over site when using it as of course all ferrets are not the same.
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Post by PatrickSuprelorin on May 28, 2013 12:27:41 GMT -8
My lead of my business Pooper, is five and a half years old. He is coming up to his sixth implant in Aug, Last insertion BG was checked (And this is an 'absolute must') he was 117 mg/dl. He is fed raw, and is as 'smart' as a polar bear. His cagemates the 'twins' are three years old, on their third implant. My five pound Monster is also on his third implant, and his dew and sable cage mates are on their second, comimg up to their third. The 'noobs' newlyweds are a year old, and on their first. Never had a single problem, with any of my eight ferrets.They are all pet shop furkids, except the eldest, Pooper who was a rescue, he was the only one 'late' implant, at ten months,three months past the safe point, however, still no ACD
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Post by unclejoe on Jul 21, 2013 18:05:18 GMT -8
So we are now going to research in earnest the availability and cost of the implants in east Central Florida. Carol aka Poppy has a slightly swollen vulva. She is 4 1/2 and shows no other signs. We have not had to treat for adrenal since Suprelorin became available in the US. Kahlua has had it before, but she got it in Canada, and she is gradually declining in health at over 8 years old. I will post what I learn.
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Post by unclejoe on Jul 22, 2013 9:00:19 GMT -8
Just got off the phone with the vet that treated Moe with lupron. They get $189.50 for a des implant. The other vet will call me back. I have 2 more to call.
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Post by Nancy Park on Jul 22, 2013 18:10:02 GMT -8
The implant is ordered in two or more at around $100 per implant. The extra cost is what the vet is charging to put it in. Honestly, all they have to do is scruff hang to tighten the skin, pop it in, maybe a bead of surgical glue and give treat and done. It's done exactly the way you would put in a microchip. Many vets are wanting to put the ferret to sleep for a few minutes but it's not necessary and exposes another risk to the ferret. Just my thoughts on this.
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Post by miamiferret2 on Sept 15, 2013 17:52:55 GMT -8
My vet just wraps them tightly in a towel for deslo. No anesthesia. She puts it in between the shoulder blades.
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Post by miamiferret2 on Sept 15, 2013 18:41:56 GMT -8
My vet just wraps them tightly in a towel for deslo. No anesthesia. She puts it in between the shoulder blades.
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